Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205

04/13/2016 08:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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Heard & Held
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+ HJR 14 CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHJR 14(STA) Out of Committee
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           HJR 14-CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:14:22 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE announced the consideration of HJR 14.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL moved  to adopt the Senate CS  for CSHJR 14(STA),                                                               
version P, as the working document.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE objected  for  discussion  purposes. He  explained                                                               
that on  line 6, page 1,  the word "utilizing" was  replaced with                                                               
the word "use" and updated  changes in Congress since the measure                                                               
was last before the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  removed  his  objection.  Seeing   no  further  objection  he                                                               
announced the CS was adopted.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:36 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLEY HUGHES,  Alaska State Legislature, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, sponsor  of HJR 14,  explained that  HJR 14 was  a single                                                               
issue convention  call for countermand,  which means  "veto." She                                                               
said the  countermand intent was  to restore the  balance between                                                               
the state and  federal government. She remarked that  she did not                                                               
see  the  federal government  as  an  enemy  and noted  that  the                                                               
federal  government  did  important   things  that  included  the                                                               
country's  military; however,  the  federal government  sometimes                                                               
has gone too far and just does not know what is best.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She  specified  that  HJR  14   would  add  a  mechanism  to  the                                                               
Constitution  through the  Article  5 process  which would  allow                                                               
states  to  "countermand"  or  "veto"  a  federal  decision  that                                                               
included a law  passed by Congress, a regulation put  in place by                                                               
a federal agency, a judicial decision, or an executive order.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She detailed the Article 5 process as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   1. 34 states are needed to call the convention.                                                                              
   2. States would convene at the convention and a simple                                                                       
     majority, 26 states, would be needed to approve the                                                                        
     amendment.                                                                                                                 
   3. Approved amendment goes out to the states and 38 states                                                                   
     would be required to ratify the amendment.                                                                                 
   4. 30 states or three-fifths would have to agree within an 18-                                                               
     month period that a certain federal decision was null and                                                                  
     void.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:17:38 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STOLTZE   asked  Representative  Hughes  to   explain  the                                                               
interplay between HJR 14 and HJR 4.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES  explained  that  HJR  4  was  a  delegate                                                               
resolution that applied  should 34 states call  for a convention.                                                               
She detailed  that a delegate  resolution would set  the sidebars                                                               
and specific  instructions for the delegates'  parameters to stay                                                               
on  the  straight-and-narrow.  She  pointed  out  that  the  U.S.                                                               
Constitution  was  held dear  and  the  intent  was not  for  the                                                               
Constitution to be dismantled.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE explained  that the legislative intent  was to keep                                                               
the two measures traveling together.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:19:50 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:20:26 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STOLTZE called  the  committee back  to  order and  opened                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:20:36 AM                                                                                                                    
MIKE COONS, National  Legislative Director, Citizens Initiatives,                                                               
Palmer, Alaska, testified in support  of HJR 14. He revealed that                                                               
Citizens  Initiatives worked  closely with  Representative Hughes                                                               
and Chair Stoltze in getting HJR 14 passed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  moved to  report the  Senate CS  for CS  for HJR
14(STA)  from  committee   with  individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached zero fiscal note.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:21:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STOLTZE announced  that hearing  no  objection, SCS  CSHJR
14(STA) moved from committee.                                                                                                   

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 14 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 version N (HCS STA Version).pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 SCS(STA) Work Draft Version P - 04-11-2016.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 version W (Initial Version).PDF SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Fiscal Note #2 - LEG-SESS 04-10-16.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - Letter North Dakota Representative Alan Fehr - 02-20-2015.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - Letter Representative Yvette Herrell of New Mexico.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - Letter Senator A.G. Crowe of Louisiana.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - New Hampshire HCR 5 (2015 Session).pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HCR 5
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - New Mexico HJR 13 (2015 Session).pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document from Sponsor - Emails of Support.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - Charles Kacprowicz Commentary.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Document - Citizen Initiatives Letter to Legislators 08-30-2014.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HB 126 Support Document - Emails With Oregon NG Evidencing Federal Cost Covering of Courts Martial 12-28-2015.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 126
HB 126 Support Document - Emails With Washington NG Evidencing Federal Cost Covering of Courts Martial 12-28-2015.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 126
HB 126 DMVA General Hummel's Four Goals In Response to OCI Investigation 04-12-16.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 126
HB 126 DMVA Initial Response to Prieksat Memo Concerns - Email 04-12-16.pdf SSTA 4/13/2016 8:00:00 AM
HB 126